Subject: Minutes of IEEE 1275 Committee on 04/25/95 Date: Wed, 17 May 95 10:13:47 -0600 From: "Dr. Luan D. Nguyen" Dear IEEE 1275-1994 Committee members, Attached please find the minutes of our last meeting on 04/25/95 at HAL, CA. Have a nice day. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1- Attendees Mitch Bradley FirmWorks/President (415)961-1302 wmb@firmworks.com Chairman IEEE 1275-1994 Committee David M. Kahn Sun Microsystems/ (415)336-2784 dmk@Eng.Sun.Com Vice Chair IEEE 1275-1994 Committee/ Firmware/OS Architecture Luan Nguyen IBM/Sys. Arch./ (512)838-1292 duyluan@austin.ibm.com Secretary IEEE 1275-1994 Committee Ron Hochsprung Apple/Sys. Arch. (408)974-2661 ron@apple.com David Paktor HAL (408)379-7000 x1366 paktor@hal.com Mike Segapel IBM pPS Firmware (512)838-8428 mikes@austin.ibm.com Bob Coffin IBM pPS Arch. (512)838-8240 coffin@vnet.ibm.com Ilan Rabinowitz Ilanet (408)354-9991 ilanet!ir@apple.com Lilian Leung Firepower Systems (415)462-6217 lilian_leung@firepower.com John Rible Quicksand (408)458-0399 jrible@cruzio.com David Trissel Motorola Austin (512)891-2137 dave_trissel@risc.sps.mot.com Brian Horn SunSoft (310)378-6010 Brian.Horn@west.sun.com John Dickol IBM Microelectronics(512)838-6005 dickol@vnet.ibm.com Martin Walsh Sun Microsystem (415)886-2786 martin.walsh@eng.sun.com 2- Review Agenda Proposed agenda was reviewed and approved 11-0-0. 3- Last meeting minutes review Vote passed to approve the last meeting minutes with admendment to remove the note under proposal #226 on bwjoin/lxjoin. 4- Standard Progress Report 1275.3: balloting body formed, IEEE sent reminder to Joe George who is the new BASC Chair for approval. 1275.4: one negative ballot to request changing scope. The committee currently doesn't have interest in that new scope and we don't have any will to address it. If necessary, we would say that we will drop the PAR. Economic interest in that simply doesn't exist. If anybody wants it, he(she) can create new PAR. Furthermore, the committee feels that we don't have a lot of expertise on this new version of FutureBus+. The IEEE has sent Martin Walsh a form for submittal to REVCOM. Their next meeting is 14 June with a deadline for submittal of 05 May. AI: Martin/David to respond to the negative ballot and then submit to REVCOM (see statement in "8- P1275.4- Future Bus+" below) 1275.6: balloting body has been formed and approved for balance by the BASC chairman. The updated supplement/binding to be sent out. 5- Action Items Review The following AIs are still opened: * Mitch: to follow up TI patent issue with Harrison Beasley. * Mitch: to make formal proposals on interposer. * Kip: to make formal proposal on ARC Terminal. * Ron: create template for "recommended practice" (Frame in MIF). * Ron: see 237, 238, 241 and 242. * David: see 233 6- Future Meetings June 6, 1995: to be hosted by Motorola Austin, TX. Motorola will also host binding meetings on June 07, 1995. July 18, 1995: to be hosted by FirmWorks Inc, Mountain View, CA. Mitch will also host July 19, 1995 binding meetings. Sept. 19, 1995: to be host by IBM Austin, TX. IBM will also host binding meetings on Sept 20, 1995. 7- Errata document (.7): ready for next couple weeks to circulate before our next meeting. As far as "recommended practice" documents, we have a dependency on Ron to provide the template. 8- P1275.3-VME Bus Waiting approval of balloting body from the BASC chairman. 8- P1275.4- Future Bus+ Quorom of 14. 14-0-0 vote to accept the following statement: "The issues addressed by 896.9 are beyond the original scope of work undertaken by the 1275.4 working group. This is consistent with the P1275.4 PAR and the scope as published in the document. The committee declines to expand the scope to include this additional work. The committee feels that it would be more appropriate to address the issues raised by 896.9 in a separate project." 9- P1275.6- 64 bit extension Balloting body approved. In balloting process. 10- Proposal status proposal 250: tabled, AI: David Kahn. proposal #249: passed - voted 10-0-0. Accept as written. proposal #264: passed - voted 9-0-2. Accept as written. proposal #266: rejected - voted 1-7-3. proposal #251: committee has reaffirmed the value of #251. AI to Mitch to encapsulate #251 to recommended practice document. proposals #252 to #263 and #265: passed - voted 10-0-0. Remanded to the PowerPC workgroup. proposal #TBD1: accepted - proposal to be submitted by Ron. 11- Action Items Summary Old AIs left: * Mitch: to follow up TI patent issue with Harrison Beasley. * Mitch: to make formal proposals on interposer. * Kip: to make formal proposal on ARC Terminal. * Ron: create template for "recommended practice" (Frame in MIF). * Ron: see 237, 238, 241 and 242. * David: see 233 New AIs: * Ron: on TI patent issue, check on licensing/royalty on NuBus that may provide a path to solve this patent issue. * Martin: respond to the negative ballot of P1275.4 as directed and submit to REVCOM. * Trissel: check and work with Kip on the ARC terminal. * Ron: REMEMBER to create the template for "recommneded practice". All of "recommended practice" document has dependency on this template. * Mitch: encapsulate #251 to recommended practice document. * David: errata document to be circulated before our next meeting on June 06, 1995. * Brian/Lilian/Luan: create SMP binding draft for review. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Luan D. Nguyen Phone: 512-838-1292,t/l 678-1292 System Architect Unix: duyluan@austin.ibm.com IBM System Technology and Architecture Div. Vnet: duyluan at austin 11400 Burnet Road IMAD 9450 Austin, TX 78758