Subject: Minutes of IEEE 1275 committee meeting on 10/31/95 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 96 17:03:47 -0600 From: "Dr. Luan D. Nguyen" Dear IEEE 1275-1994 Committee members, Attached please find the minutes of our last meeting on 10/31/95 at FirmWorks, Mountain View, CA. Also please remind that: (1) our next meeting will be on January 16th at Motorola, Austin, TX , and (2) check the "Action Item Summary" at the end of this note for your action items. Thank you and have a nice day. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1- Attendees Mitch Bradley FirmWorks/President (415)961-1302 wmb@firmworks.com Chairman IEEE 1275-1994 Committee David M. Kahn Sun Microsystems/ (415)336-2784 dmk@Eng.Sun.Com Vice Chair IEEE 1275-1994 Committee/ Firmware/OS Architecture Luan Nguyen IBM/Sys. Arch./ (512)838-1292 duyluan@austin.ibm.com Secretary IEEE 1275-1994 Committee Ron Hochsprung Apple/Sys. Arch. (408)974-2661 ron@apple.com Greg Hill Firmworks [415]917-6985 gregh@firmworks.com Mike Segapeli IBM pPS Firmware (512)838-8428 mikes@austin.ibm.com Jordan Brown Sunsoft (310)348-6039 jordan.brown@west.sun.com John Kingman IBM RSD (512)838-1546 kingman@austin.ibm.com Chris M Bellman Adaptec, Inc. cbellman@corp.adpatec.com Rob Baxter Motorola Computer G.(512)891-2137 robb@phx.mcd.mot.com Kip McClanahan Motorola MMTG (512)891-6525 kip-mcclanahan@risc.sps.mot.com Bob Coffin IBM pPS Arch. (512)838-8240 coffin@vnet.ibm.com David Paktor HAL paktor@HAL.com Alfredo Cotroneo Bull HN, Italy 1+39-2-67798496 aec@nexus.org John Rible Quicksand (408)458-0399 jrible@cruzio.com Lilian Walter FirePower Systems (415)462-6217 lwalter@Firepower.com 2- Review Agenda Proposed agenda was reviewed and approved 10-0-0 witht he following changes: (1) Add "discussion on procedural for reviewing bindings" after "10:15AM Future meetings", (2) Move "Errata document" to after lunch so John Rible can participate, and (3) Move "Any other proposals on the table" from 2:45PM to the end of the day. 3- Last meeting minutes review Vote passed to approve the last meeting minutes (10-0-0). 4- Standard Progress Report 1275.3: The ballot package including the standard and cover letter was shipped to IEEE Monday. It is still in ballot process. 1275.4: Mitch and Martin were unable to sway the lone dissenting voter. We decided to do the recirculation. Martin sent the recirc package to IEEE on Monday June 05,1995. This package included the comments from the dissenting vote and the committee responses along with a cover letter. Recirculation period is over and we are waiting to hear from IEEE 5- Action Items Review The following AIs are still opened: * Mitch: to follow up TI patent issue with Harrison Beasley. Open, pending on Ron's effort to check on TI licensing/royalty on NuBus that may provide a path to solve this patent issue. * All authors/editors of each "recommended practice" documents have action item to update the document template and its contents per discussion. * Mitch: encapsulate #251 to recommended practice document. * David Kahn: Standard properties document. * David Kahn/Mitch: report on 64-bit experimental work. 6- Future Meetings Jan. 16 & 17, 1996: Motorola Austin, TX, to be hosted by Kip McClanahan. April 30 & June 01, 1996: IBM Austin, TX, to be hosted by John Kingman and/or Bob Coffin. 7- Procedural issues: * CHRP binding and other documents will be reviewed in open public after Fall Comdex 95. * Thanks to Motorola for hosting the alias. We request that large document/note to be sent to David Kahn for posting. 8- Open Firmware Recommended Practice: 16-color Text Extension Approval vote 11-0-0 to become the recommended practice version 1.3 with amendments: (1) deleting the time next to the date in the front page, and (2) directing Ron to update this document accordingly. 9- Open Firmware Recommended Practice: 8-bit Graphics Extension Approval vote 11-0-0 to become the recommended practice version 1.3 with amendments: (1) deleting the time next to the date in the front page, (2) Change line 17 page 5 to "The returned values are the dimensions of the viewable area of the screen in the current mode", and (3) directing Ron to update this document accordingly. 10- Errata document (1275.7): Reviewed changes and voted 13-0-0 to approve changes and to forward the draft 1275.7 for IEEE sponsored balloting. 11- PC Card binding supplement: Bob Coffin reported to the current status of the PC Card Committee. 12- PCI binding: Reviewed changes page by page. AI: Ron to update. Tabled discussion on "reg"/"assigned-addresses"/base address registers in the PCI binding. 13- 1275.3 VME Reviewed the replies to the p1275.3 ballot. 14- Open Firmware Recommended Practice: Interposer Approval vote 10-0-1 (Jordan against) to become the recommended practice version 1.0 with amendments: (1) deleting the time next to the date in the front page, (2) fix e-mail address, (3) typo on page 4 last line "%package_name", and (4) directing Mitch to update thisdocument accordingly. 15- Proposals review: 292: Subject: Item #292: PCI bus master capable property 292: Closed: Withdrawn by author- Superceded by #293. 293: Subject: Item #292: PCI bus master capable property 293: Closed: passed 11-0-0 16- PowerPC Processor binding: 291: Subject: Item #291: PPC Default mode for map 291: Table. 17- Action Items Summary Old AIs left: See section 5 on Action Items Review in this note New AIs: * Ron/David Kahn/Greg/Jordan: work on "reg"/"assigned-addresses"/base address registers in the PCI binding. * Jordan/Lilian to work on names, unit-address... in ISA binding